lexpunk asked: religious freedom also doesn’t mean being an asshole to everyone who believes in God or is religious. you have absolutely no right to tell anyone what to believe/not to believe just as we have no right to tell you what to believe. so chill. (also, stop telling women that they have no business being christian or muslim. we are NOT oppressed. we are okay and we have that choice. we did not ask you.)
Oh, where to start.
First; calling me an asshole does not make what I’m saying less true. Resorting to name calling only makes you look desperate and afraid to actually debate the issue.
Second; You want to be religious? That’s okay as long as you do it on your own time, your own dime and either at home or your place of worship. But for some reason people feel the need to push for laws that show favoritism to one creed more than others or go door to door to preach their good word to the heathens. The reason why these religious people do that is because they think they are superior to everyone else because they have an imaginary friend that helps them get through their day had loves them. And women’s rights are being attacked by religious men who have no business dictating what happens between a woman and her doctor, yet you think that’s no oppression. Isn’t that cute…
The truth is if people kept their religion to themselves instead of trying to legislate their faith onto others, I’d have nothing to talk about. There’s a reason why I have never posted a single entry about the Amish. They’re as biblical religious as you can get but I’ve never said word one about their church and how they choose to worship. Want to know why? Because they keep their faith to themselves and feel no need to push their religion publicly. There’s actually a passage in Matthew that says public display of your faith is actually not allowed, that you should do it in private.
Your assumption about women are not oppressed is just shocking. You’re in the state of denial to the point where its jaw dropping. It’s a fact that women of religion are oppressed, especially those who are Muslim.
Do you honestly think these women have a choice? Seriously?
Then try to leave your religion. Renounce your faith for just one week and find out how much of a choice you really have. I bet you wouldn’t last a week without someone threatening to punish you (or that God will punish you) for abandoning the flock.
If you are a Muslim, try to take your hijab off for just a few days and find out what little choice you really have or in this case don’t have. See how well that goes over with the people in your family or community.
The truth is women in certain parts of the world are attacked and even executed for trying to do the two things I dared you to do above. Their executions are called honor killings even though there is absolutely nothing honorable about them.
If you honestly believe women have a choice, then I think you need to have a look at what happens when women around the world attempt to exercise that choice you think they all have:
Dec 7th, 2007: A Mississauga, Ont. cab driver has been charged with the murder of his 16-year-old daughter, who was attacked in the family home after clashing with her strict Muslim family over whether or not to wear the hijab, the traditional Islamic head scarf for women. Source: http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=ba198688-98a6-4c46-91bc-5ca26cc5aca8
Aug 1st, 2008: Yesterday, the Pakistani unit of the Taliban announced not only that it demands “unislamic” businesses to close (CD shops, cable service providers and internet cafes) – they also warned women that they have 15 days to start wearing hijab – or have their faces maimed with acid. Source: http://www.violenceisnotourculture.org/content/pakistani-taliban-wear-hijab-or-be-disfigured#sthash.FOX1P7S0.dpuf
May 15th, 2014: A pregnant young woman has been sentenced to death in Sudan for renouncing Islam and marrying a Christian man, in a case which has attracted global condemnation.Meriam Yehya Ibrahim, 27, was told by a court in Khartoum she would be hanged for committing apostasy by leaving Islam and becoming a Christian. She was also sentenced to 100 lashes for marrying a non-Muslim, which constitutes adultery under Sudanese law. Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/global-outcry-as-sudanese-woman-sentenced-to-death-for-renouncing-islam-9380447.html
July 30th, 2014: Militant Islamists in Somalia have shot dead a Muslim woman for refusing to wear a veil, her relatives say. Ruqiya Farah Yarow was killed outside her hut near the southern Somali town of Hosingow by gunmen belonging to the al-Shabab group, they say. The militants had ordered her to put on a veil, and then killed her after returning and finding she was still not wearing one, the relatives said. Source:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28564984
Oct 1st, 2014: But who will protect the right of women and girls not to wear the hijab if they so choose? Women and girls such as Aqsa Parvez, whose Muslim father choked her to death with her hijab after she refused to wear it; and Amina Muse Ali, a Christian woman in Somalia whom Muslims murdered because she wasn’t wearing a hijab; and the 40 women who were murdered in Iraq in 2007 for not wearing the hijab; and Alya Al-Safar, whose Muslim cousin threatened to kill her and harm her family because she stopped wearing the hijab in Britain. Source: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/georgia-muslim-stabs-sister-for-refusing-to-wear-hijab
After reading all that, are you honestly going to try to tell me that women are not oppressed by religion and their insane followers?
While some of the examples were in Africa, a few of these examples are from industrialized nations like the UK and even Canada. When these women attempted to make a choice, even in these western nations, they were attacked and in some cases murdered for doing so. That’s isn’t oppression in your books? Do as I say or you’ll burn and/or die for not doing as you’re told. That sure looks like oppression in my books, fueled and condoned by a religion that gives these sick men the excuse the need to act like savages.
This is the oppression that I’m referring to. While I’m sure there are some women out there who have freedom, there are far, far more women who are oppressed and are forced to comply not because they want to but because they fear the consequences if they dare oppose the creed they were born into. These women do not have a choice.
To me that is very definition of someone being oppressed. If you want to stick your head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge it, that’s your problem. I am looking at the world as it is, not as how I would prefer it to look. There is a problem and the the first step to solving is it to admit that the problem exists.